How do you know if someone really loves you?

How do you know if someone really loves you?     
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9 z! z+ @% r" {+ haoxiu.com    There are three layers of the human individual: his physiology, the body; his psychology, the mind; and his being, his eternal self. Love can exist on all the three planes, but its qualities will be different. On the plane of physiology, body, it is simply sexuality. You can call it love, because the word ?ove?seems to be poetic, beautiful. But ninety-nine percent of people are calling their sex, love. Sex is biological, physiological. Your chemistry, your hormones ?everything material is involved in it.
  `, o2 o" t8 ^, e6 X  K奥修(OSHO)中文社区(Meditation,Love)You fall in love with a woman or a man. Can you exactly describe why this woman attracted you? Certainly you cannot see her self, you have not seen your own self yet. You cannot see her psychology either, because to read somebody? mind is not an easy job. So what have you found in the woman? Something in your physiology, in your chemistry, in your hormones, is attracted to the woman? hormones, her physiology, her chemistry. This is not a love affair; this is a chemical affair.
% ]  x! t5 r; ~" T4 _8 }& ~4 _Osho,奥修,静心,爱的艺术,MeditationJust think: the woman you have fallen in love with goes to our doctor, gets her sex changed, starts growing a beard and mustache. Will you be still loving her? Nothing has changed, only chemistry, hormones. Where has your love gone?Osho,奥修,静心,爱的艺术,Meditation% Y6 [- M, U/ |$ j' e0 ^( r
Only one percent of people know a little bit deeper. Poets, painters, musicians, dancers, singers have a sensitivity that they can feel beyond the body. They can feel the beauties of the mind, the sensitivities of the heart, because they live on that plane themselves.
8 r, x+ p+ l/ @6 NOsho,奥修,静心,爱的艺术,MeditationRemember it as a ground rule: Wherever you live, you cannot see beyond that. If you live in your body, if you think you are only your body, you can be attracted only to somebody? body. This is the physiological stage of love. But a musician, a painter, a poet, lives on a different plane. He does not think, he feels. And because he lives in his heart, he can feel the other person? heart. That is ordinarily called love. It is rare. I am saying only one percent perhaps, once in a while.aoxiu.com8 ~' j- ~/ v% n" ]) P& g
Why are many people not moving to the second plane because it is tremendously beautiful? But there is a problem: anything very beautiful is also very delicate. It is not hardware, it is made of very fragile glass. And once a mirror has fallen and broken, then there is no way to put it together. People are afraid to get so much involved that they reach to the delicate layers of love, because at that stage love is tremendously beautiful but also tremendously changing.aoxiu.com6 [3 S/ @2 l( p: J, d) U
Sentiments are not stones, they are like roseflowers. It is better to have a plastic roseflower, because it will be there always, and every day you can give it a shower and it will be fresh. You can put some French perfume on it. If its color fades you can paint it again. Plastic is one of the most indestructible things in the world. It is stable, permanent; hence people stop at the physiological. It is superficial, but it is stable.
0 P% I4 L9 @. _aoxiu.comPoets are known, artists are known to fall in love almost every day. Their love is like a roseflower. While it is there it is so fragrant, so alive, dancing in the wind, in the rain, in the sun, asserting its beauty. But by the evening it may be gone, and you cannot do anything to prevent it. The deeper love of the heart is just like a breeze that comes into your room, brings its freshness, coolness, and then it is gone. You cannot catch hold of the wind in your fist.! Q: i  I  q+ G8 s# g2 ?0 I, R
Very few people are so courageous as to live with a moment-to-moment, changing life. Hence, they have decided to fall into a love on which they can depend. I don? know which kind of love you know ?most probably the first kind, perhaps, the second kind. And you are afraid that if you reach your being, what will happen to your love? Certainly it will be gone ?but you will not be a loser. A new kind of love will arise which arises only perhaps to one person in millions. That love can only be called lovingness.Osho' m2 @/ G: i4 K  b2 r
The first love should be called sex. The second love should be called love. The third should be called lovingness ?a quality, unaddressed ?not possessive and not allowing anybody else to possess you. That loving quality is such a radical revolution that even to conceive it is very difficult.
% b! p& b) Q# s- @5 x( }Osho,奥修,静心,爱的艺术,MeditationJournalists have been asking me, ?hy are there so many women here??Obviously, the question is relevant, and they are shocked when I answer them. They were not expecting the answer. I have said to them, ? am a man.?They looked at me, unbelieving. I said, ?t is natural that many more women will be here, for the simple reason that whatsoever they have known in their life before was either sex, or in rare cases, perhaps a few moments of love. But they have never come to know the taste of lovingness.?I have told these journalists, ?ven the men you see here have grown many feminine qualities in them which have been repressed in the outside society.?br>Osho,奥修,静心,爱的艺术,Meditation% Q1 @; K+ x0 r
From the very beginning a boy is told, ?ou are a boy, not a girl. Behave like a boy! Tears are okay for a girl, but not for you. Be manly.?So every boy goes on cutting his feminine qualities. And all that is beautiful is feminine. So finally what is left is just a barbarous animal. His whole function is to reproduce children. The girl is not allowed to have anything with manly qualities. If she wants to climb a tree she will be stopped immediately, ?his is for boys, not for girls!?Strange! If the girl has the desire to climb the tree, that is enough proof that she should be allowed.
4 X% S( ~* @) B' eOsho,奥修,静心,爱的艺术,MeditationAll old societies have created different clothes for men and for women. This is not right; because each man is also a woman. He has come from two sources: his father and his mother. Both have contributed to his being. And each woman is also a man. We have destroyed both. The woman has lost all courage, adventure, reasoning, logic, because those are thought to be the qualities of a man. And the man has lost grace, sensitivity, compassion, kindness. Both have become half. This is one of the greatest problems we have to solve ?at least for our people.
) h+ k' l/ M! T, `7 MOsho,奥修,静心,爱的艺术,MeditationMy sannyasins have to be both: half man, half woman. That will make them richer. They will have all the qualities that are available to human beings, not only half. At the point of being, you simply have a fragrance of lovingness. The journalists have asked me, ?o you love Sheela??I said, ?f course. But I love so many women that I don? know even their names. And not only women ?I love so many men, because they are also half woman.?In one million sannyasins around the world, I cannot point to a single person and say, ?his is the person I love.?I can simply say, ? love.?Whoever is ready to receive my love...it is available. So don? be afraid. Your fear is right: what you think of as love will be gone, but what will come in its place is immense, infinite. You will be able to love without being attached. You will be able to love many people because to love one person is to keep yourself poor. That one person can give a certain experience of love, but to love many people....
5 _# T* E" {: ^# {奥修(OSHO)中文社区(Meditation,Love)You will be amazed that every person gives you a new feeling, a new song, a new ecstasy. Hence, I am against marriage. In my vision, marriages in the commune should be dissolved. People can live together their whole life if they want, but that is not a legal necessity. People should be moving, having as many experiences of love as possible. They should not be possessive. Possessiveness destroys love. And they should not be possessed, because that again destroys your love.
7 L" g6 ~4 v" A  u- jAll human beings are worthy of being loved. There is no need to be tethered to one person for your whole life. That is one of the reasons why all the people around the world look so bored. Why can? they laugh like you? Why can? they dance like you? They are chained with invisible chains: marriage, family, husband, wife, children. They are burdened with all kinds of duties, responsibilities, sacrifices. And you want them to smile and laugh and dance and rejoice? You are asking the impossible. Make people? love free, make people non-possessive. But this can happen only if in your meditation you discover your being. It is nothing to practice.Osho4 d0 ]5 a, d5 |* |! A
I am not saying to you, ?onight you go to some other woman just as a practice.?You will not get anything, and you may lose your wife. And in the morning you will look silly. It is not a question of practicing, it is a question of discovering your being. With the discovery of being follows the quality of impersonal lovingness. Then you simply love. And it goes on spreading. First, it is human beings, then soon animals, birds, trees, mountains, stars. A day comes when this whole existence is your beloved. That is our potential. And anybody who is not achieving it is wasting his life.
! a9 K, y# d+ \5 B9 D5 \Yes, you will have to lose a few things, but they are worthless. You will be gaining so much that you will never think again of what you have lost. A pure impersonal lovingness which can penetrate into anybody? being ?that is the outcome of meditativeness, of silence, of diving deep within your own being. I am simply trying to persuade you. Don? be afraid of losing what you have.
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How do you know if someone really loves you?

让我想到“绝爱”里面的台词……(汗!)

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人类个体有三个层次:他的生理层——他的身体,他的心理层——他的头脑。以及他的存在——他永恒的“我”。爱可以在这三个层次里存在,但是他们的品质将是不同的。在生理层,爱仅仅是性。你可以叫它爱,因为这个词:爱,好象是诗歌,是美丽的。但是99%的人管他们的性叫“爱”。性是生理的。是你的化学,你的荷尔蒙。你爱上了一个女人或男人,你能够清楚地解释出这个女人哪里吸引了你吗?当然你不能看到她本身,你甚至还还没有看到你自己。你也不能看透她的心理,因为了解一个人的头脑不是一件简单的工作。你在一个女人里面找到了什么?你生理方面的某些东西,化学上的,荷尔蒙里的某些东西被她的荷尔蒙,她的化学所吸引。这不是一个爱情事件,这是一个化学事件。aoxiu.com0 P8 p: R/ o4 p0 m. E

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只要想想,你爱上的那个女人去了医院,改变了她的性别,开始长出鬓角和胡须。你还会仍然爱她吗?除了化学,荷尔蒙,别的什么也没有改变,你的爱上哪里去了?Osho,奥修,静心,爱的艺术,Meditation- v& ?7 v. }, ]; ]
只有1%的人了解得稍微深一些。诗人,画家,音乐家,舞者,歌手,他们有那种敏感性去超越肉体。他们可以感觉到心灵的美丽。因为他们生活在自我的层面上。( because they live on that plane themselves.??)Osho5 U. |9 f! E% I+ J' D
记住这个基本的原则:无论你活在哪个层次,你都不可能看到比它更高的层次。如果你生活在肉体的层次,如果你认为你仅仅是你的肉体,你能够仅仅被一个人所吸引吗?身体,是爱的生理阶段。但是一个音乐家,画家,诗人,生活在一个不同的层面。他并不思考,他感觉。由于他生活在他的心里,他可以感觉其他人的心。这个通常称为喜欢。这是稀少的。我说这种情况只是1%的,偶尔的。
8 b- l0 Z$ \" j7 yOsho,奥修,静心,爱的艺术,Meditation那么,为什么这么多人不移向这个明显更加美丽的第二个层次呢?因为有个问题:任何非常美丽的东西也同时是精妙的。它不是硬件,它是由非常易碎的玻璃制成的。一旦镜子跌落粉碎,就没有办法再拼起来。人们害怕被卷入这个精美的爱的层面,是因为这个阶段的爱虽然无比美丽却也非常容易改变。
* {" r' U# l" A9 F  a) l奥修(OSHO)中文社区(Meditation,Love)感性不是石头,他们好象是玫瑰花。最好是要塑料的玫瑰,因为他们将永远存在。每天你洒洒它们,他们又重新变得新鲜。你可以洒上些法国香水,如果颜色褪了你还可以再添上。塑料是这个世界上最牢不可破的东西。它稳定,永久;因此人们停留在生理层面上。它虽然肤浅,却是稳固的。
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诗人和艺术家由于每天几乎都坠入爱河而闻名。他们的爱如同玫瑰花,当它在那里它是如此芬芳,如此活生生,它在风中跳舞,在雨中,在阳光下肯定着它的美丽。但当夜晚来临它就可能逝去,你无法做任何事去挽回。心的深爱如同微风吹入你的房间,带来他的清新,凉爽,然后它就离去。你无法将它握在拳中。
. d& l( _" w0 k7 A非常少有人能够勇敢到过着片刻接着片刻.不断改变的生活。因此,他们决定只爱上一个可以依靠的爱。我不知道你究竟知道哪一种爱,最有可能的是第一种,也许是第二种。你担心,如果你达到了你的存在,将会有什么事情发生在你的爱上呢?当然它会走掉?但事实上你不会是个失败者。一种新的爱将升起。它仅在一亿中的一人身上发生,这种爱只能叫做“爱”。
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第一种爱应该被称为性,第二个称为喜欢。第三个称为爱?——一种品质,无所属的,不占有也不允许任何人占有你。爱的品质是这样一个难以设想的革命。(The first love should be called sex. The second love should be called love. The third should be called lovingness ?a quality, unaddressed ?not possessive and not allowing anybody else to possess you. That loving quality is such a radical revolution that even to conceive it is very difficult. ??)
. l" k( }. w. F7 h9 V1 Z3 H- w记者曾经问过我,为什么这里有这么多女人?很显然,这个问题是相关的,当我回答他们的时候他们都很震惊。他们想不到是这样的答案。我这样说,“女人?(一个人??)”他们满腹狐疑地看着我,我说:“非常自然,这里将会有越来越多的女人。因为,他们过去的生命里,他们知道的是性,或者偶尔,几个片刻的喜爱。但他们从未尝过爱。
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奥修的回答是:我是一个男人。。:))

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你看到的这里的男人已经增长出许多女性的品质,那些在外界社会中被压抑的品质。从一开始,一个男孩就被告知,你是一个男孩,不是女孩,所以要表现得象个男孩。眼泪是对女孩而言是ok的,但对你不行。要有男子气概。所以每个都继续消除他的女性品质。而所有那些美丽的都是女性化的。因此最后,留下的只是一种野蛮的动物。他的整个功能就是生产孩子。而女孩不允许有任何男性的品质。如果她向爬树,她会立刻被制止:那是给男孩子的,不是给女孩的!真是怪哉!如果一个女孩想爬树,她完全有足够的根据去这么做。$ b" P1 b' n9 q. A9 Q+ @. `; J7 |
所有的旧社会都为男女创造了不同的衣服。这是不对的;因为一个男人同时也是一个女人。他有两个起源:他的父亲和母亲。他们两者共同构建了他的存在。每个女人同时也是一个男人。我们却把他们两者都给毁了。女性丧失了她全部的勇敢,冒险,推理,逻辑,因为那些被认为是一个男人的品质。而男人失去了优雅,敏感,同情,仁慈。两者都变成了一半。这是我们必须解决的最重大的问题之一,至少对我们的民众而言。
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我的弟子们已经成为了他们两者;一半是男人,一半是女人。这将使他们更加丰富。他们将拥有一个人类所能拥有的全部品质,而不是一半。从存在的角度,你仅仅有爱的芬芳。那个记者问我:“你爱sheela??”我说,当然了,但我爱的女人如此之多我甚至不知道她们的名字。而且,为什么仅仅限于女人呢?我爱如此多的男人,因为他们也有半个女人。我可以说,爱,无论谁准备接受我的爱…它都是可以得到的。所以,不要害怕。你的恐惧是对的,你所认为的“爱”将会消失,但取代它的将是无限的,浩大的。你将能够没有附属也能爱。你将会能够爱上很多人,因为仅爱一个人将会让你保持贫乏。那个人能够给你某种爱的体验,但是爱许多人……+ ?4 j$ F: q6 v. i+ C
你将感到奇妙,每个人都给你带来一个新的感觉,一首新歌,一首新的诗,一个新的狂喜。因此,我反对结婚,在我看来,在社区里面婚姻应该被解除。如果人们愿意,他们可以一生都生活在一起,但它不是一个法律上的必须品。人们应该到处走动,尽可能有更多爱的经验。他们不该去占有。占有破坏了爱。他们也不该被占有,因为那再次破坏了你的爱。
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